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Stronger of the Children; Goten or Trunks
Topic Started: Sep 4 2011, 03:24 AM (1,228 Views)
TheStormPow Sep 4 2011, 06:19 PM Post #16
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who said trunks got more training growing up? vegeta had just started training trunks when gohan got his saiyaman outfit, while goten had been trained in the turtle style for years.


I want to say Bulma once said something along the lines of "Your father has been trying to get you to train ever since you could walk" though I don't know my stuff well enough to cite a quote like that. And even if I'm wrong about that, he's seen in the gravity room walking (albeit he's struggling, but he was still able to stand and walk a little), which doesn't seem like something he'd be able to easily do without at least a bit of training. Not only that, but he has some pretty big muscles for a kid, which shows he obviously did some training lol.

I would barely consider sparring with Chi-chi to be training that's any tougher than anything Vegeta put Trunks through. Plus Gohan had no idea that Goten ever sparred with her once, so she obviously didn't do it while he was home (what I'm getting at is that they must not have done it extremely often).

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and they saw chi chi get turned into an egg and crushed.


Ah, well that's why I said I was 99% sure they didn't see it. I was wrong on that one. Though I still wouldn't consider their anger to count so much towards their actual strength, just maybe their inclination to train.
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lunar2 Sep 4 2011, 06:37 PM Post #17
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 in the Funi dub, bulma said that vegeta thinks that if you're old enough to walk, you're old enough to train. however, what she really said was this:

Chapter: 423 (DBZ 229), P2.4
Bulma: “[Vegeta] says he’s reached a good age to begin basic training, so he’s teaching him grappling. Apparently he wants to make Trunks even stronger than you.”

vegeta had barely started basic training with trunks. goten was already being trained by a master of the turtle style. i'm not bringing this up as a point of power, we know trunks was a bit more powerful because he was older, but goten definitely did start training first.
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Fulgore Sep 4 2011, 07:17 PM Post #18
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who said trunks got more training growing up? vegeta had just started training trunks when gohan got his saiyaman outfit, while goten had been trained in the turtle style for years.


I want to say Bulma once said something along the lines of "Your father has been trying to get you to train ever since you could walk" though I don't know my stuff well enough to cite a quote like that. And even if I'm wrong about that, he's seen in the gravity room walking (albeit he's struggling, but he was still able to stand and walk a little), which doesn't seem like something he'd be able to easily do without at least a bit of training. Not only that, but he has some pretty big muscles for a kid, which shows he obviously did some training lol.

I would barely consider sparring with Chi-chi to be training that's any tougher than anything Vegeta put Trunks through. Plus Gohan had no idea that Goten ever sparred with her once, so she obviously didn't do it while he was home (what I'm getting at is that they must not have done it extremely often).

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and they saw chi chi get turned into an egg and crushed.


Ah, well that's why I said I was 99% sure they didn't see it. I was wrong on that one. Though I still wouldn't consider their anger to count so much towards their actual strength, just maybe their inclination to train.
Goten literally WENT into the time chamber right after Chichi was killed in front of his eyes. He was SEETHING with anger. This undoubtedly drove him to train harder.
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